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Post by Michelle Hannon on Mar 23, 2007 9:13:51 GMT -5
Welcome.
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hector
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Post by hector on Apr 10, 2007 13:10:38 GMT -5
hi
just wondering if the hip hop scene around gville is going to be represented at all. the layout of the site seems like indie rock is going to be the focus, as do the musical interests of all contributors. is it a direction that the site is at all interested in incorporating? hollah!
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Post by Michelle Hannon on Apr 10, 2007 20:47:23 GMT -5
We have thought about covering hip-hop. We would need someone who is knowledgeable on the Greenville hip-hop scene and hip-hop in general. We're still working out the layout and such, and we've thought about having a hip-hop section.
Greenvillescene is primarily interested in genres stemming from rock n roll. We feel like you could have an entire site devoted to just hip-hop and rap. We can't be that site, but we're completely open to covering it. If you're interested in helping - email me. michelle@greenvillescene.com.
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Post by mike on Jun 13, 2007 9:23:55 GMT -5
;DI am from Greenville. I moved to Columbia back in 91' and back to Greenville in 2005, and I must say things have changed. Before I go into my spill about the G'vegas scene, let me give you some back ground of myself. I was once senior talent buyer for the Elbow Room music hall,(and part owner) talen buyer for Jungle Jim's, Sandpipers, and did a few shows @ the Township and the local Amory. So in short dealt with vast artist. My opinon on Greenville is it has unbelievable potentional. The town is going through the last stages of growing pains. All it needs is a 800 - 1500 cap. venue right downtown. With someone open mined at the helm. NO HANDLEBAR! I have talked to these guys.. Don't get me wrong they do alot for G'ville, but they don't take risks. Or even step out of "the handlebar" norm. It is sad when you have to go to Asheville or Columbia to see Just local southeastern bands. The Gypsy is taking a step into the right direction. But there is only so much a venue its size can do. Let's face it Greenville has never had a music scene since the days of Al's Pump house( **** I'm telling my age). The one thing we can all do is support whta little scene we do have and site like this on.. GREAT JOB GREENVILLESCENE.COM
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Post by Michelle Hannon on Jun 14, 2007 7:41:06 GMT -5
Thanks Mike! The Elbow Room? Wow, I used to go there all the time in college to see shows. That's pretty cool. I couldn't agree more with your sentiments.
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Post by Keith Groover on Jun 14, 2007 8:46:39 GMT -5
I used to love Al's pumphouse, too.
I agree Mike, there's a ton of potential, and I think there's a lot of great stuff going on musically that just hasn't been fully exposed yet.
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Post by tvis on Jun 23, 2007 9:28:53 GMT -5
Hey this is Travis McCauley, I like the site a lot. Im glad someone has finally taken the intiative to do something like this. I agree with the posts above. Greenvilel is close they just need the right venue. Im working on a new project so i will send you some music and news on that soon. Keep up the good work Travis
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Post by Michelle Hannon on Jun 23, 2007 12:48:07 GMT -5
Hey Travis! Yes, keep in touch. Email me about your stuff: michelle@greenvillescene.com
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Post by John Jeter on Aug 9, 2007 13:10:12 GMT -5
Hi, Mike: I read your post with some interest. No risk. I find that amazing. of Montreal. Hot Hot Heat. Jenny Owen Youngs. Brett Dennan. Pepper. Bedlight for Blue Eyes. John Mayer. Wild Sweet Orange. Rocco Deluca. Sick Puppies. Over the Rhine. Tyrone Wells -- oh, that's right, we had to cancel that show, because we'd sold two tickets. See, that's the problem -- we DO take risks, but Greenville is seen as a tertiary market by agents nationwide, you should know that from your experience as a talent buyer in Columbia, another teritiary market. And when a show like of Montreal doesn't sell out, the agent doesn't want to bring the band back to the market. Likewise, when you're in a developing market (like Greenville), you get developing bands (like Jenny or Brett or Pepper or I-Nine), who go on to bigger things, like the Orange Peel, which is considered a primary market. We're not going to get Sufjan Stevens or Devendra Banhart unless and until we start proving that we support the music scene on any given day with any given band. We couldn't sell out Rev. Horton Heat -- which is why he won't return. Why bother playing a room that won't sell out? We spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to promote our shows, and it's not as if people don't know what's playing here. What we have is a limited market with limited disposable income, and we are in a situation with agents nationwide where they see Greenville and the Upstate as a third-tier developing market. That makes me proud. The other day, John Mayer stood in front of a sold-out Nashville arena and told fans there that he enjoyed playing clubs like the one in Birmingham, Ala., and "The Handlebar in Greenville, SC." But it takes a lot of work and a lot of education to bring people out to artists they've never heard of. It took three plays for the Drive-By Truckers to sell out. It took five plays for Robert Earl Keen to sell out. It took three plays for Corey Smith to sell out. Some artists and agents do want to return to the room and build their fan base here; others aren't so interested -- they would rather go to more receptive places. Like Asheville or Carrboro, where people go to shows ... just because it's a show. That's why Cat's Cradle and Ziggy's and the Orange Peel thrive, because they don't have to take risks -- they get marquee names because agents know their bands will play to sold-out rooms. We take risks every night. We have looked at all the bands on this Web site, on this forum, and we have gone after most of them. Most of them won't play this market either because the agents won't do business in the Upstate (because of unfamiliarity or because they don't believe there's business to be made here or ... you name it), but mostly because Greenville's not on the agents'/artists' radar screens. Try as we might, when alternative/indie/rock shows don't draw people, we can't get more alternative/indie/rock shows to play here. We've tried, believe me, and we keep trying, must to our consternation. But when tribute bands outsell indie bands, we have to pay our bills. So, you tell me: How DO we get people out to see artists they've never heard of--really really good ones? Artists who "start" at The Handlebar and, next thing you know, are on Leno and have become too big for us? Why don't you present a few shows here and see what it's like? We're open. We're here all the time. We're open to all suggestions. And, while people don't think we're on the lookout for bands they want to see, they wouldn't believe the resistence we get from agents, managers and agents who simply don't want to do business in the Upstate because they don't believe there's much of a market here. Give me a call. And let us know how you can make it happen. ;DI am from Greenville. I moved to Columbia back in 91' and back to Greenville in 2005, and I must say things have changed. Before I go into my spill about the G'vegas scene, let me give you some back ground of myself. I was once senior talent buyer for the Elbow Room music hall,(and part owner) talen buyer for Jungle Jim's, Sandpipers, and did a few shows @ the Township and the local Amory. So in short dealt with vast artist. My opinon on Greenville is it has unbelievable potentional. The town is going through the last stages of growing pains. All it needs is a 800 - 1500 cap. venue right downtown. With someone open mined at the helm. NO HANDLEBAR! I have talked to these guys.. Don't get me wrong they do alot for G'ville, but they don't take risks. Or even step out of "the handlebar" norm. It is sad when you have to go to Asheville or Columbia to see Just local southeastern bands. The Gypsy is taking a step into the right direction. But there is only so much a venue its size can do. Let's face it Greenville has never had a music scene since the days of Al's Pump house( **** I'm telling my age). The one thing we can all do is support whta little scene we do have and site like this on.. GREAT JOB GREENVILLESCENE.COM
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Post by Keith Groover on Aug 9, 2007 21:52:11 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughts, John. I guess when we're trying to figure out how to help the scene around here, sometimes it's easier just to pile onto one scapegoat than to actually figure out ways to help.
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Post by mike on Sept 18, 2007 13:45:46 GMT -5
Hi John, Part of what you stated was true. Everything that could be done to "educate" your audience is not being done. I am a seeker; in other words I take the extra steps to find out what is going on in my city, not every **** and jane consumer will do this. With that being said, I still miss a great deal of things because of lack of communication. Case in point: one of my favorite acts known as hieroglyphics came to "the handle bar" I found out days later, by some friends who just happen to go into the place for happy hour. The issue is clubs like the handle bar should make it known what is going on. True it will cost, but you have to build you audience. And as far as the shows that did not sell out, its amazing because we went out of town to see Rev. Horton... you do the math.
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Post by Isom Crisp on Jan 5, 2009 12:15:19 GMT -5
I've noticed that a few of you have mentioned al's pumphouse and toy caldwell (marshall tucker band). My dad Alvin Crisp owned the bar for 11 years and gave the eulogy ay Toy's funeral (Dickie Betts played amazing grace afterwards) We found some video of Toy playing at the club in '91. When I showed my Dad he cried like i'd never seen before. It was like a trip through life. If any of you were former patrons and have video or just want to say thanks it would mean more to him than a million dollars, just knowing he made people happy. He is dying now we don't have the money for the medicine or hospice care he needs so I would really like to give him something special. Please write us. The videos were posted by a youtube MTB fan tellittothedevil.
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Post by Delta Dawn Thompson on Jan 16, 2009 23:58:28 GMT -5
Just so you know Al, Greenville loves you more than you'll ever know! I too was there very often in the late 80's and early 90's. It WAS THE Tuesday night jam that kept me and all my friends rocking' to the beat! I remember Al and his wife very well. They were always there with a smile on their faces. The bands,the music, the employees... it was GREAT! My favorite venue in Greenville! I'm Friends with members of The Derek Trucks band and travel often to see them play live. Last time I saw Derek we were talking about me moving back from ALT. to Greenville and I mentioned Al's Pumphouse. Derek had the strangest look on his face and said "OMG Dawn I haven't heard that name in years" And he ask me about you.You are loved deeply by many and the great times we had at the Pumphouse were some of the best times in my "young" life. Thanks a million for the laughs and great times never to be forgotten! With love Delta Dawn
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